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Challenge mysterious thriller Ten Books

This blog reading any proposal is welcome, and in this case, myopic The third is a mysterious entry on the Challenge, which consists of reading ten books of detective novels from May to December . Challenge for me if it is, because it is a genre in which I lavish so much, but some I have read and I can assure you that sent me worse required reading in school.



K. Gilbert Chesterton. The Man Who Knew Too Much . A Chesterton discovered with The Man Who Was Thursday, a bizarre novel circulating between comedy, philosophy and fantasy. The Man Who Knew Too Much is more on the detective genre, although the title is somewhat misleading, since Reno's edition also includes several short stories that have nothing to do.



K. Gilbert Chesterton. The scandal of Father Brown. Another saga that began in my youth, and that over time, I was left open the third. The style is very similar to the deductions of Sherlock Holmes, and his character also has a kind of Watson, in Eset case, Flambeau, a retired French thief, but also combines many ideas of the author and a bit of criticism.



Graham Greene. The Third Man. While this sole pull over to the spy novel, this, set in postwar Berlin, has a more focused argument as police, with murder and black market through included, which in espionage.



George Simenon. Commissioner Maigret. I read a couple of novels about four or five who gave away the Voz de Galicia, and got to see the TV series, but can not remember the character beyond identifying it as a police detective.



Pierre Véry. Goupia Manos Rojas. After reading Goupia Manos Rojas in Paris, I decided I had to get the first and abroad. Véry because the character is one of the Martians who have met in my life: a quiet (and somewhat disturbing) resident of a town of Angouleme, having fun imagining a country populated by other nicknames Goupis and puts his neighbors: Goupia-La Ley, Goupia-Church ... The atmosphere is very strange and exhausting, desribed small towns or in the case of the second book, a Paris full of secrets, of pensioners-mafia characters and very, very rare.



Agatha Christie. Ten Little . Or are the Diez Negritos, o Asesinato en el Orient Express, pero algo de la Señora Christie tiene que caer. En su día, había leido Cartas sobre la mesa y El misterio de Sittaford, que estaban bastante entretenidos, pero a día de hoy, la totalidad de sus libros puede hacerse un poco repetitiva, más alla del interés que tengan por su ambientación en entreguerras.



Raymond Chandler. El sueño eterno. Había visto la película, porque Bogart es mucho Bogart, y también tengo el libro por casa. Chandler escribía novelas policiacas de puertas para fuera, porque en la mayoría se centraba más en la crítica,los trapos sucios de la clase alta and corruption.



Gaston Leroux. The Mystery of the Yellow Room . This is the second time I read The perfume of the lady in black, his sequel. In order to see if I find out who the hell is Fréderic Larsan and why it is an evil genius.



Sherlock Holmes. Study in Scarlet. Holmes The first kick I read, and for some reason, it also includes a historical novel ... in the middle of the chapters. I do not know if it was a printing error, or neural author.




Henning Mankell. Wallander. Gender Scandinavian police could not miss, and those of Wallander are fairly well supported .. What I can not say Millennium, Salander whose famous character seemed too fantastic to be in a realistic novel.

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One of the traditions of this blog is to collect search input. After two years, should have enough material to make a rather comical, but in the collection, Hewl and I look at a very strange thing: even though the blog moves and cat-geek side of life, almost all include terms related searches. This most often "doctor who", "being human use", "Scott Pilgrim" and even "sucker punch" or "Fawlty Towers."

Fortunately, there have been some who either have surprised me by referring to little-known books or movies, or enter the realm of the surreal:

great characters of literature . entry exists and is on Hewl favorite. It was always a bit grandiloquent title for what you write.


"the dramas of death" . Well, well, too, and in this case, esta serie de libros de Feval, autor folletinero y con una extraña fijación con las calvas, fue una de mis lecturas.

el ultimo libro que me hizo reír. En este caso, una de las preguntas que aparecía en el meme literario.

Being erica series parecidas . Eso pregúntaselo a Hewl, que es el que la veía.

barrilete de doctor ¿Con licor, como los que llevan al cuello los San Bernardo?

campamento zombie barrilete cosmico. No era una mala idea para una actividad infantil, no: “Traigan a sus hijos al campamento zombie de Barrilete Cósmico, donde disfrutarán de una sana dieta de brains, and tell stories of living around the campfire. "

modern vampires. Here, I do not think, from the Count Orlock are all spoiled.

3 actors literature "This came on the test?

rhino attack. Between February and May, are rabid.

Surprisingly, none of the search keys include the word "kitty" and that here, the kittens, we are more than enough.

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On the national march for peace

What I liked about the place (my first and hopefully last) is that the pain of a marginal poet has been called a march of such proportions and diversity. Yes, there were many groups 'radical' proposals with the same 'stupid' as ever, but something became clear to me yesterday: they are right or not, their grievances are legitimate, their problems are not solved yet and your proposals (with which we agree or not) have failed to materialize (for one reason or another) in legal initiatives. What they said some columnists and intellectuals, always repeating the criticism against the Mexican left-wing populism and the 'totalitarian democracy' in the mass meetings, sounds great. It is always sensible response: changes happen through legal means, institutional, slowly but genuinely democratic. I used to agree with that, but today I'm not so sure. Can

, at the current point of things, resolved so many serious crimes and wrongs of institutional form? Do not we have a lot of these circumstances, the Congress to legalize drugs, regulate monopolies, propuesiera a comprehensive reform of the state, parties and public finances? Faced with such problems are compounded every day in increasingly difficult circumstances (we're not even in the days of Fox, when harm than good, there was economic stability, oil boom, the hope of institutional renewal), can we expect change from within the institutions? You really can renew Mexico from the mainstream media from specific political parties, elections and the 'reforms'? Yes, it should be, because then things are done in a true democracy. But as said Ellacuría, SJ in the eighties on El Salvador: "The Salvadorans have for half a century freely choosing their leaders and have not improved their situation at all: they are starving and being murdered. What face we can ask them to continue going to the polls? '. Maybe you can ask Wallace Sicily or to wait for democracy and its slow action, but what about the bees and other indigenous Chiapas? How are already waiting for the "institutional channels" solve anything? I, for one, do not see clearly how to reform the political system from the current system of parties. And you only need to confirm this, see the names of people sought by the Chair for 2012. Honestly ask ourselves, what can wait for an honest man and honest who joins the existing parties?

Just as it is easier than walking, so varied and multitudinous, went beyond their own purposes and fall into the commonplace, the same goes for those who, taking advantage of it, tempted to ignore the background and motivations that you could breathe at street level, there are many, many people who, by differently and may be different than one might think, has something in common: they feel aggrieved, angry and, above all, powerless. View it simply as a march against Calderon and for a pact with the drug is inappropriate and unfair (in which case, it was Mrs. Wallace who blamed the authorities for the murder of his son.) But one thing is clear: people who are left in the best, extremely disappointed by the authorities, beginning by the president, who initiated a 'war' front (perhaps, yes, postponed) against organized crime, for the wrong reasons, without consulting anyone, with the wrong strategy (and the military agree), wrong methods and results disastrous. Yeah, that Felipe Calderon has anyone tortured and maimed with their hands, but how do you expect (him or zealots) is not responsible for the disaster has already happened (35 000 dead!) And the failure of his strategy? Which denies that and insists on going is outrageous and, dare I say, sinful, demonic. If no one spoke against organized crime, kidnappers and murderers is because they do not all accounts may be required, strategic reassessments, legality of any kind. Crime and violence feeds and reproduces itself: there is nothing to do but to ask (although they ignore) that his cruelty is not free, that respect the 'civilians'. Instead, it is to criticize Calderon, for whom many of the attendees voted to start in 2006, which was not on his campaign promises no 'war', which was initiated without adequate means (municipal cooperation state of which he complains), which, quite simply, made a mistake after another and it has left, in practice, a 'civil war' in Mexico.

But there is one more thing I want to say. Sicily is, obviously, politically naive, that is its greatest strength and biggest flaw. He, unlike Martí, Vargas and Wallace, not of the Mexican social and economic oligarchy, is a relatively unknown poet electoral or economic unpretentious, Catholic single, automarginals conviction. Some have suggested that what he is doing is because he wants to sell more books and get a 'bone' in politics. They are people who ignore where it comes from, how it is and that her son and his friends kidnapped, badly beaten to deface and suffocated with plastic bags. Of course, all for a few books and a mayor of shoddy! I think what bothers these people more than not taking the "institutional channels" (because they have money or influence, which is the only thing that can move the institutional channels to voice and voice worth it in this country !), is one who has dared to go further, saying he does not believe in those beds, because they are infested and infected with the same ills that claim to combat. And worse: he, as a simple poet who would rather be in Cuernavaca, writing, praying and watching your child grow quietly Juan, has touched the fibers of the poor, the Zapatistas, the youth, 'marijuana', gays and many other factions that the same institutional oligarchy wanted to disappear. In the end, that Sicily is not a Martí or Wallace weighs people 'good', as Martí and Wallace, because the gears are in bad taste, for 'nacos' and 'radical', for those not believe in the institutions (because the institutions have neglected the lifetime).


Good thing Javier has had a lifetime of Christian mystical deep rooted and personal. Whatever happens is for these events that God had given him so much grace. GG

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cienciaficcioneras a week

Today, we answer a question that assails all readers: Is it possible to put a picture of a kitten with each book entry and not repeated?

in this blog are like the postman, but rain, snow or shine, reading is a vice that is not abandoned. Another thing is to respect the order that they had thought about books yet, because, although the former had thought myself meme with the adventures of Le Bossu, I decided to go back to science fiction (and translations into Castilian) before to continue with the cape and sword, fair and equal choice to launch a random 20-sided die to decide which book to start first.

"Stop the monkey," he said as a child.

Pierre Boulle. Planet of the Apes. More than the book, the monkeys are known a lot thanks to Charlton Heston movie and a little less thanks to the one that shot Cosic Tim Burton. The argument is well aware: an astronaut arrives on a planet inhabited by intelligent apes human and feral, who take the watchman's whistle ... and this is the only point of agreement between both versions, because the book is less cienciaficcionero Boulle , closer to the adventure and ... why deny it, more French. And that is the way of narrating, ignoring scientific references ("at that time, space travel were the most common), or exaggerating a pair of astronomical references (as a small lecture information on Betelgeuse) is much closer to Verne than science fiction of the time. MONIL civilization is the equivalent of the sixties of the earth, so you see a lot of orangutans, gorillas and chimpanzees dressed in suit and tie is much more comical than the brown suit Doctor Zaius we remember in the movie , not to say that the findings of leading the similarities between the two species are quite funny, and the baba bad when explaining the reason for this evolutionary change. Not much more to say about this book, except that for many we saw The Informal at the time, reminds us that:

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Isaac Asimov. The Naked Sun. In Asimov just knew it was a science fiction author who sold a lot for years (more or less, at the time that Stephen King started corduroy in Plaza y Janes), who had a lot of books about the Foundation had invented the laws of robotics and for counting. I do not appeal to me much because the robots are a bit like me (where a good pair of Triffids, which are removed cans), except for the Metropolis, because that is sacred. I started reading this Naked Sun to be among several that I borrowed and slightly increase that of popular culture. I started to read without knowing the plot, nor the date, or whether it belonged to one series, and when you get to read to the blind, the book in question may like or dislike. Luckily, this corresponds to the first option: set in a world in which a part of humans have conquered space and developed the robot, while another is stuck in the land, living in cities and still high kilometric despised by the former, a detective must travel to land one of those planets to solve a murder thing will be complicated when the customs and culture are completely opposite. In short, this is a detective story situated in space and robots, but it develops the same way that it could include for example, a novel about an African detective should go to imperial Britain to solve a crime. With this comparison, it is not highly original, but is written with enough agility and is entertaining. In addition, one of the things that characterizes the book is the absence of criticism toward both planets, and a very little pessimistic of these: if isolation is a form of habitual behavior on Earth are unable to stand outside due to their confinement in the cities ... details presented in an objective, but the story is in first person and the protagonist, as well as surprised at this, must face the rejection of the suspects as human germ carrier.

is probably the next Fahrenheit 451, which is very short and ends in an afternoon, and if not, as my people say: God will say tomorrow.

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Doctor Who Season 6. Day of the Moon

The Doctor Who has started with a double episode that includes a bit of everything: time travel, aliens disturbing aspect, and several tracks for the next episodes. This is a review of best and worst The Impossible Astronaut and Day of the Moon:

narrative arcs. Since 2005, Doctor Who has been characterized by a recurring phrase that signals a major event, which will serve as the finale. This time they have gone one step further, and last season many of the characters he was told the doctor that "Silence will fall", a situation that will open this season and it serves, simultaneously, to make way for an arc more broad and ambitious, involving the very future of one of his companions.

AAAgh! That tie is frightening

The Silence. Weeping Angels If he had won a prize to Steve Moffat, these aliens wearing ties and also bring them big heads, without the Doctor knew until now, this race has been behind the humans from the beginning, hiding from them by orders posthypnotic. In the words of the doctor, "is not about to fight an invasion, but to carry out a revolution." And it is the power to dominate the mind that will lead to the destruction of this species.

temporary crossings. Along with giving fear, is another favorite topic of Steve Moffat. And in these two episodes has been the basis of good. Being a series on, time travel, he was the writer who twists the possibilities of this concept the most, a trend that began with the first season of Matt Smith. In this case, has gone one step further, playing with his own death of the Doctor, River Song escapes from taking advantage of the apparitions of the Tardis, and that girl who seems to be connected to Amy Pond.

Paradoxes (again). Russell T. Davies accustomed us to the smallest detail plot had its conclusion, which Steve Moffat does not follow to the letter. Among their vices, have a preference for a faster assembly, shock effect (which this time involved several dead. Or not) that lead to a situation explained, and skip the explanations, if sometimes accelerates the narrative, others leave a lot of questions that can not be resolved.



characterization. Although I was very funny this setting in the U.S. (and the fact that its broadcast on BBC America include the voice of Karen Gillian putting on the public record. Viva expanding audience), the theme of the space race served to include a claim that another element, like the spacesuit and the mysterious girl, the appearances of Richard Nixon is not quite there. The theme of the characters famous works more or less well when they have their over centuries, as was the case with Charles Dickens in 2005, but both the Nixon and Winston Churchill in the previous season have been no big deal.



After initial dizziness, the next episode promises a story far more bearable and more components of adventures without complications, ships, pirates, ghosts and some surprise. Any improvement with pirates.

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The false contradiction of sin in children attributed to the Book of Mormon

Is it really contradictory to the text of Psalm 51:5 to 8:8 Moroni about sin in children?

Author: Israel Gonzalez

As criticism suggests that Psalm 51:5 and 8:8 Moroni allegedly contradict, let's start with a definition of contradiction.


Definition of contradiction

The term conflict is defined as the presence of an "affirmation and denial that oppose each other and destroyed each other" (Dictionary Royal Academy, 2011).

During the analysis of each "contradiction" attributed by critics of the Book of Mormon to the literacy of it in supposed opposition to the Gospel contained in the Holy Bible, we see that each fall as false in any of the following three cases :

1. The statement puts and biblical criticism really is not the Bible.
2. * The Mormon claim that criticism makes it really is not as Mormon Book of Mormon.
3. The statements set as opposed criticism does not really contradict each other, ie, not destroy each other but can coexist in one or more contexts, book together, giving a sense of richness to the truth of the Gospel.

* Notes: coined a new meaning to the term "Mormon (a)" to summarize some content follows directly from the Book of Mormon, and we prefer the term "Mormon" that folklore is associated with all canon and culture Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.


This is only an excerpt of the future article "The false contradictions attributed to the Book of Mormon" paper still publishing a list of "serious doctrinal alleged contradictions" that the author published in this year 2011, as an apologetic defense of the book and to confirm the faith of Latter-day Saints and their supporters.

The method of refutation

Since the critical expose contradictions, we followed a method which complies with the definition, so check if it is effective that the statements were destroyed. To do so, follow the following methodology:

1. try to identify in a concise manner which two statements are contradictory to each criticism.
2. evaluate whether the statement is biblical, making cross-references one and only with Biblical content.
3. evaluate whether the claim is Mormon, making one and only cross-references to the content of the Book of Mormon
4. In case 2 and 3 themselves are correct, we will assess whether the statements actually contradict each other. To see if it destroys the Mormon claim to the biblical and / or destroy the Mormon Bible, or really can coexist.
5. For 2 or 3 are not correct, try to draw a hypothesis of why the criticism come to be described by its author as contradictions. Critical

"The Book of Mormon teaches that Young children are not able to [make] sin because have a sinful nature (Moroni 8:8). In contrast, the Bible in Psalm 51:5 clearly teaches that we have a sinful nature from birth: "Behold, I was shapen in iniquity and in sin my mother conceived me" (Source: http://www.irr .org / mit / English / bib-bom-sp.html , annex added in square brackets)

criticism arises, then, these two conflicting claims: Claim

1. Bible: Humanity has a sinful nature from birth.
2. Mormon Affirmation: Humanity does not have a sinful nature from birth.

The statement itself is biblical

For the answer to this criticism define the sinful nature and the presence of corruption in the body and / or spirit do to be spotted in the sky, we refer to an intrinsic nature, of being, which is expressed at the time the acts and will not be visible in the children first.

Thus the Bible contains numerous evidence that the whole of humanity - including infants - is indeed sinful from or after (not before) the fall of Adam:

1. For the day that you eat thereof you shall surely die (Genesis 2:17)
2. Because there is no man who does not sin (1 Kings 8:46)
3. Behold, I was shapen in iniquity and in sin my mother conceived me ( Psalms 51:5)
4. Your first father sinned, and thy teachers have transgressed against me (Isaiah 43:27)
5. Our fathers have sinned and have died, and we took his punishment "(Lamentations 5:7)
6. Who can say : I have cleaned my heart and I clean my sin? (Proverbs 20:9)
7. certainly not a just man on earth who does good and never sins (Ecclesiastes 7:20)
8. Be remembered before the evil Lord of their fathers, and the sin of his mother be blotted out. (Psalms 109:14)
9. death passed upon all men because all sinned (Romans 5:12)
10. In Adam all die (1 Corinthians 15:22)
11. If we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us (1 John1: 8)

The statement is not Mormon

Surprisingly the Book of Mormon also supports downright humanity has inherent sinful nature as is the Bible. The book often refer to this state of sin, as a state "down" and "lost." Sometimes as "nature." Others, such as "sinful," "carnal" and "corrupt." We will see that the book teaches state as "forever." Man alone can not rid of him.

These multiple quotes from different characters from different cultures, different periods of time, directly or indirectly support a fallen nature to all mankind as a race regardless of age (infants, children, youth or adults), sex (men or women) or other pattern classification. Here

add to each appointment, the author, culture and the approximate year in order to demonstrate that this belief was accepted across all the peoples of the Book of Mormon:

1. All mankind was in a lost and fallen state, and would forever, unless rely on this Redeemer. (1 Nephi 10:6, the patriarch Lehi, 600 BC)
2. And the Lord will set his hand for a second time to restore his people from his lost and fallen (2 Nephi 25:17, Nephi First King and Seer Nephite, 559 BC)
3. If knowledge of the goodness of God in this time has awakened you to a sense of your annulment and your worthless and fallen state (Mosiah 4:5, Benjamin King and Seer Nephite, 124 BC)
4. The natural man is an enemy of God, and has been since the fall of Adam, and will be forever (Mosiah 3:19, Idem)
5. So all humanity was lost, and, behold, would have been lost forever had not God rescued his people from their fallen and lost. (Mosiah 16:4, Abinadi the Prophet, 148 BC)
6. But remember that anyone who persists in his own carnal nature, and follow the paths of sin and rebellion against God, remains in his fallen state, and the devil hath all power about it. (Ibid.)
7. And the Lord told me: Marvel not de que todo el género humano, sí, hombres y mujeres, toda nación, tribu, lengua y pueblo, deban nacer otra vez; sí, nacer de Dios, ser cambiados de su estado carnal y caído (Mosíah 27:25, Alma Profeta Nefita en su conversión, 82 a.C.)
8. Vemos que Adán cayó por comer del fruto prohibido, según la palabra de Dios; y así vemos que por su caída, toda la humanidad llegó a ser pueblo perdido y caído. (Alma 12:22, Alma Profeta Nefita en Tierra de Ammoníah, 82 a.C.)
9. ¿Quién se hubiera imaginado que nuestro Dios fuera tan misericordioso como para sacarnos de nuestro estado terrible, pecaminoso y corrompido? (Alma 26:17, Ammón Lamanite missionary ground, 90 BC)
10. You say that this is a people guilty and fallen because of the transgression of a parent. Behold, I tell you that a child is not guilty by reason of their parents. (Alma 30:25, Korihor the antichrist in his criticism of the teaching that children also participated in the Fall of Adam taught by the Prophet Alma, 74 BC)
11. Because it is necessary to make an atonement, because according to the great plan of the Eternal God, you must be an atonement, or else all mankind must inevitably perish, yea, all have been hardened, yea, all have fallen and are lost, and not for the atonement is necessary to do, must perish. (Alma 34:9, words Amulek missionary companion of the Prophet in his mission Alma Zoramites, 74 BC)
12. All men are in a natural state, or rather say, in a carnal state, are in the gall of bitterness and in the bands of wickedness (Alma 41:11, Alma Prophet's words in its commission mission for their children, 74 BC)
13. And there would be no means to redeem man from this fallen state, he himself was caused by reason of his disobedience (Idem)
14. By the fall of Adam, all men are considered as if dead, both in regard to things temporal and spiritual things. (Helaman 14:16, the words of the prophet Samuel Lamanite, 6 BC)
15. We know that you are holy and dwell in heaven, and that we are unworthy before thee because of the fall our natures have become evil continually ( Ether 3:2, Brother of Jared Prophet Jaredite, 4,000 BC)

Therefore the statement is not Mormon and therefore the alleged contradiction is false.

There is no contradiction

What may have confused the authors of the original criticism in Moroni 8:8 is very subtle in the teaching of their prophet Mormon letter about infant baptism practiced in the fourth century in the Nephite Church, and is the transverse error committed by his body early centuries of Catholic Bishops in Rome on the same topic.

To do this we quote verbatim the above verse and the verses of context:

"Son, I want you to work diligently to remove from among you this big mistake, because for this purpose I have written this epistle.

Because immediately after I had learned these things of you, I asked the Lord concerning the matter. And the word of the Lord came to me by the power of the Holy Spirit saying

Hear the words of Christ, your Redeemer, your Lord and your God, Behold, I came into the world not to call the righteous to repentance, but sinners, the whole need no physician, but those are sick, so young children are healthy, because they are incapable of committing sin, so the curse of Adam is taken from them in me , so he has no power over them, and the law of circumcision is done away in me .

And so I said the Holy Spirit the word of God, therefore, my beloved son, I know that it is solemn mockery before God that ye should baptize little children.

Behold, I tell you this teach-repentance and baptism those who are responsible and capable of committing sin yes, teaches Parents who must repent and be baptized, and humble themselves as their children, and shall all be saved with their little children.

And their little children need no repentance, neither baptism. Behold, baptism is unto repentance to the fulfilling the commandments for the remission of sins.

But little children are alive in Christ, even from the foundation of the world if not, God is a partial God, and also a changeable God a respecter of persons, for many little children who have died without baptism!

So if young children could not be saved without being baptized, they have gone to an endless hell.

behold, all little children are alive in Christ, and also all those who are without law. For the power of redemption is effective in all those who have no law, so that has not been convicted, or which is not under condemnation, can not repent; and that baptism is useless. "(Moroni 8:6-14,22)

In this context, it is clear that Moroni 8:8 does not say that children are innocent" of themselves. " If it were an essential innocence of being or self. Why Mormon would use the argument of "innocence of Christ", ie, through the merits of Christ himself to appeal to the sanctity of young children? There would be no need for a Redeemer if celestial innocence of babies were an inherent innocence. Moreover, if an essential innocence, no-won by Christ What merits then you have a Savior?. Just do not require redemption and a sanctification for infants. Moroni 8:8

argues a second reason for the innocence of babies in Christ and is "committed no sin." Again here is not the essence of the individual but to the individual's own sinful intention. Mormon never speaks that there is no intrinsic sin nature in children, but speaks of the nature of commission sinful which obviously was not in infants and children under. Is it the same sinful nature that the commission of sin? No. From the first by genetics Adamic all share, says the Book of Mormon. In the second awareness is needed of the law, because no commission is omission (James 4:17).

A history to take into account is that this innocence won "in Christ", it is clear to Mormon only after a process of reflection and then a new direct revelation from the Lord. So we can assume without fail, even the same Mormon also questioned whether infant baptism was wrong, and this probably because he was absolutely clear that the curse of Adam includes every child of Adam regardless of age. Therefore

this innocence Shall be understood as a sanctification by grace free but essential cleanup of young children: a free forgiveness in Christ, as free and universal that does not require repentance or any religious sacrament. Thus we can indeed conclude that there is a small and very short lapse of time (8 years, according to tradition revealed in Mormonism) between the conception in the womb of the mother and the awakening of individual conscience, which is forgiven and sanctified through the redeeming grace of the Savior in a free and universal until consciousness is rooted in his being and that individual ceases to be innocent (without knowledge of the gospel) and begin to sin through willful commission (or willful default.)

This "innocence won" by having atoning for sins in a state of innocence, then, may well include those who never could hear the law and the mentally disabled for life or the thousands and millions who never arrived knowledge of the law, the principles and ordinances (sacraments) of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

This "innocence in Christ" has its justification in biblical scriptures also (to mention others such as John 1:10, where the theologian explains that in light of the grace of Christ shines upon each designed independent of any condition) and as in modern revelation of the tradition Mormon, but the most relevant and enlightening, and certainly that occupied the minds of Mormon to meditate on the role of Jesus Christ as High Priest and Redeemer atoning sin nature - as Mormon had access to the Books of Moses - has been the as follows:

"And the priest shall make atonement for the person who sinned inadvertently, when small inadvertently before the Lord, make atonement for her, and be forgiven." (Numbers 15:28)

Thus we see that the law of Moses in ancient times kept the symbolism of forgiveness also for the innocent. They were not innocent of themselves, but Atonement was the forgiveness that allowed such sinners. Such forgiveness by grace require an active action of the sinner only when you become aware of their actions before the law. This is consistent at all with the passage of Moroni 8:8.

the foregoing we have shown that the "contradiction of sin in children" does not exist in the Book of Mormon. The Book of Mormon never states that children are not intrinsically sinful nature (indeed, says he does; see references above) only argues that Christ is justified and sanctified through His Atonement and that sanctification is valid in early of life or until they understand the Law After this they require repentance and baptism.